그냥 외국 검색 사이트를 통해 연아 이름으로 검색하다보면 나오는 글들, 나만 보기 아까워서 올려^^
2005년이니까 우리나라에도 그렇고 잘 알려지지 않을때인데 벌써 인정받고있었다는게 기쁘고
역시 뛰어난 선수는 사람들이 다 알아보게 되있다는 생각이~흐흐
그리고 내가 여기에 기사랑 글들 올리는거 퍼가는거야 다 좋은데 다른데서 돌아다니는거
(연아카페라던지^^) 보면 뭔가 묘한 기분이라고할까? 다들 연아에 대해 애정을 갖고있으니까 그러는거겠지만~
출처만 밝혀준다면 나야 머 상관없구^^
http://www.mkforum.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-6842.html
연아양~체전 무사히 잘 마친거 축하해~~캐나다로 고고!ㅎㅎ
View Full Version : Yu-na Kim has a great program to Tango de Roxanne
brinababy87
September 11th, 2005, 10:23 AM
I know a lot of MKFers around here are fans of the Tango de Roxanne music, and Yu-na Kim skated a fine short program to it at JGP Bratislava, so here\'s a link to a video of it.
s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?...15TBOTC4Z5 (http://s44.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2ZHEFMJO806RU27F15TBOTC4Z5)
I think she has a very mature style for her age. It\'s too bad she can\'t go to the Olympics.
Monika at FSU/Fsvids provided the video. Thanks a lot! :)
Edit: Here\'s a second link
s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?...U103LOM5X8 (http://s47.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=11CII7IIJ2N3J0PU103LOM5X8)
Krista
September 11th, 2005, 10:23 AM
I loved it once it got into the quick part. I didn\'t like the slow beginning though, but yes she has lovely style and Im sure she\'ll only get better :)
Kinda makes me sad that Michelle didn\'t use that music.
Ice So
September 11th, 2005, 10:28 AM
ITA, I downloaded the program yesterday and although I already loved her last season, I was :eek at how much she evolved in terms of expression and interpretation.
And not just that, she also pushes the technical part with 3-3\'s, great spins and wonderful spirals. I hope we will see lots of her in the future, she has so much potential :)
redvispa
September 11th, 2005, 10:54 AM
I HATE the way the music was cut --- it makes it too repititious --- if they had just kept it intact I think it would have been a better music selection -- I was so distracted by the music cuts that I hardly paid any attention to the skating..... :o
Nathan
September 11th, 2005, 11:50 AM
This girl is so good. And the funny thing is I don\'t think she knows how good she is. She just has this look at the end of her programs like "okay...that\'s over now...when\'s dinner?"
All her jump entrances are difficult and interesting. Her jumps rotate very nicely in the air. Her double axel landing was great, it\'d be even better if she\'d hold the edge a little longer.
Is this her program for the upcoming season?
BTW I love the music. It is a shame that Michelle will not skate to it. I\'d have take this any day over Bolero, or even Tosca.
brinababy87
September 11th, 2005, 01:00 PM
I heard that she doesn\'t even like to skate. Coulda fooled me.(제일 안타까운게 이런 오해들이야~ 2005년에 이런말이 나왔다는건 역시 잘 알려져있지않아서 그랬던 거라고믿어~ 이제는 이런얘기하는사람들 없겠지?^^)
Krista
September 11th, 2005, 01:05 PM
hmm, well if she doesn\'t even like to skate, thats disappointing.
francois
September 11th, 2005, 05:40 PM
incredible!!!
Kim is much taller than lst year.
this program is more appropriate for the and is showing more expression...difficult elements
I heard that she landed 3flip-3toe in her long at that comptetition.
This is her competitve short program for this season.
So now Asada is not anymore in JGP, who elso going to give Kim for her money?
uncchristine99
September 12th, 2005, 08:12 AM
Wow... she has great style! I\'ve never heard of this skater but I\'m very impressed. She has a natural grace that will improve with time. Very impressive skate!
Applegate13
September 12th, 2005, 12:27 PM
I really liked it a lot. Her jumps look awesome :eek and correct me if I\'m wrong but her lutx looked like it had a really clean back outside edge.
Also, I looked at the score sheet thingy that\'s more specific about the elements and it looked like all the girls at that comp. did triple flip/double toe and a solo triple lutze in the short. I don\'t know doing if this jump layout would get different scores then doing a triple lutz/double toe and a solo triple flip but I wonder if will start seeing a change in the jump layouts of shorts with the new COP.
StephT
September 12th, 2005, 02:19 PM
I think she has a lot of potential as a skater and really loved her jumps and spins. Unfortunately, though her moves are sharp and "artistic", I don\'t feel the true involvement of every bit of her soul into what she does. The moves and poses she strikes are good and strong, but she doesn\'t seem to be doing them with full conviction.
I loved the choice of music, but hated the cuts. If done correctly, this music can take a mediocre skater to greatness and a great skater to perfection, IMO. This cut didn\'t do it, though. It was choppy, repetitious and almost destructed. I\'d have liked a bit more red in the outfit...but that\'s just my personal taste :b
Choreography was intricate and clearly worked out to do well under COP, but I didn\'t like many parts of it. A lot of tango influence that ended up just looking like arm flapping. Less would have been more here.
Overall, I really like Yu-Na and I\'m so happy somebody chose El Tango de Roxanne....now all that needs to happen is Michelle using it :CK
DevilishDuckie
September 12th, 2005, 03:48 PM
Also, I looked at the score sheet thingy that\'s more specific about the elements and it looked like all the girls at that comp. did triple flip/double toe and a solo triple lutze in the short. I don\'t know doing if this jump layout would get different scores then doing a triple lutz/double toe and a solo triple flip but I wonder if will start seeing a change in the jump layouts of shorts with the new COP.
Both layouts are worth the same.
3F+2T, 3Lz = 12.8 = ((5.5 + 1.3) + 6.0)
3Lz+2T, 3F = 12.8 = ((6.0 + 1.3) + 5.5)
I think the different layout has to do with the lutz being the required SP solo jump for the Juniors, thereby eliminating the possibilty of a lutz combination.
As for jump layouts changing, senior skaters who have a solid 3T+3T could really take advantage of the new rules to get a leg up over the 3Lz+2T, 3F skaters.
A program with:
3T+3T, 3Lz = (4.0 + 4.0) + 6.0 = 14.0
is worth 1.2 points more than the standard 3Lz+2T, 3F, despite not having a flip.
If Michelle can get the 3T+3T down, she can take advantage of this without having to learn a harder 3-3.
gatzbee
September 12th, 2005, 04:08 PM
o man i really wish mk was skating to Tango this season :( i think if she was w/ Morosov this season we may have seen Tango, but that\'s just my guess ;)
anyhow, VERY nice skating by Yu Na. I actually sort of like her over Mao Asada. I love her poses, but she just has to feel it more I think. But she\'s much more impressive to me than some other junior skaters
brinababy87
September 12th, 2005, 04:33 PM
I agree that Yu na seems more mature than Mao at the moment, but I think we should see Mao\'s improvement before deciding... besides, Mao at least seems happy about skating. :\\
EigthAv
September 12th, 2005, 04:49 PM
ESPN/ESPN 2 should have worked 2005 World Juniors into their mix for previous events leading up to the start of the new Grande Prix season. Mao will be seen on American television soon.YuNa won\'t be seen by most here for a longtime.I hate to see so much history being ignored. I\'d surely love to see this young warrior in action and some of our other ISU junior players.
brinababy87
September 12th, 2005, 05:39 PM
I agree, EigthAv. This girl is a big part of the future of skating, especially when the big-timers leave.
I think it will be..
Mao Asada
Yu-na kim
Miki Ando
Kimmie Meissner
Katy Taylor
Bebe Liang
And based on what I\'ve seen so far of Yu-na and Katy Taylor, the future doesn\'t look too disappointing! Bebe skated well at nationals, also.
probativev
September 12th, 2005, 09:15 PM
Wow, hints of greatness to come. That was really good. A mature program and she was able to interpret it. And that was serpentine footworks sequence!!! WOW WOW WOW!
I\'m a fan.:)
BatonKwan
September 13th, 2005, 06:20 PM
Wow! :eek This is the first time I\'ve seen Yu-na skate, and I\'m impressed. I was expecting a junior performance, but she could compete with the seniors with this. But impressive as she was, Yu-na just doesn\'t have the same sparkle as Mao. There\'s just something missing in her skating... it certainly wasn\'t the spiral though. That was gorgeous!
mzheng
September 13th, 2005, 07:02 PM
Thanks for the clip. She has really a natural musicality and lines.
From what I saw a few programs from Mao and Yu-na (last JWC) and this clip both of them are head and shoulder above the rest junior field, really. Is she eligible for Senior competetion yet? The same age as Mao or one year younger?
DevilishDuckie
September 13th, 2005, 07:22 PM
I wonder if those awful music cuts were the fault of an inexperienced editor. If I were the Korean federation, I\'d get the best coach, choreographers, and music editors for this girl because she\'s arguably the best skater from Korea yet.
brinababy87
September 13th, 2005, 07:32 PM
She could skate in Senior grand prix if she wanted, but whomever decides these things figured it would be best for Yu-na to skate in Juniors once more--perhaps to get more exposure without Mao there to win.
I really think in the future, barring injury, it will be between these two. For now I\'m rooting for Mao. :) But Yu-na is certainly a treat to watch.
Applegate13
September 14th, 2005, 12:07 PM
Thanks DevlishDuckie. I didn\'t know a solo triple lutz was required in junior shorts. Guess that explains it.
GMAN
September 14th, 2005, 01:08 PM
I agree that the music cuts were bad, but I loved her style! Last year, she looked quite reserved (but beautiful) and it\'s fun to see her have some pizzaz and fire! She looks like she\'s grown a lot too.
Where do you find a music cut of that music without lyrics? I\'ve just been able to find are quicker ballroom versions.
cestlavie000000
September 14th, 2005, 04:41 PM
I hope Yu na Kim enjoys her skating and shows us more as time goes on. She is my favorite of the up and comers. I am a total fan!
DevilishDuckie
September 14th, 2005, 09:43 PM
Actually, I didn\'t clarify it enough. For this year, the required solo jump out of footwork is a double OR triple lutz. I think the Junior SP double or triple jump out of footwork cycles between loop, flip, and lutz each year, much like how the Pairs require a different lift and death spiral each year.
uglygreekgoddess
September 15th, 2005, 09:09 AM
For this year, the required solo jump out of footwork is a double OR triple lutz. I think the Junior SP double or triple jump out of footwork cycles between loop, flip, and lutz each year
Last year it was the loop and that\'s why Bebe declined Jr. Worlds seeing how she didn\'t have her loop back yet. Since it\'s the lutz this year, I think Bebe should go to Jr. Worlds if she is assigned....but HOPEFULLY she\'ll make the Olympic and World team!!! But if she does go to Jr. Worlds, I think she\'s the only likely one to beat Yuna Kim.
EigthAv
September 15th, 2005, 10:58 AM
But if she does go to Jr. Worlds, I think she\'s the only likely one to beat Yuna Kim.<!--EZCODE BR START--><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE BR START--><!--EZCODE BR END-->A lot can happen between now and March.Jennifer Kirk didn\'t look like a World Junior champ in September of 1999.She placed 4th in her 1st JGP event and at the time,Sara Wheat looked stronger.After a win at Nagano JGPs over Naomi Nam and a silver medal at JGP finals,Kirk looked more like a World Js gold contender and entered big Nationals as a darkhorse medal contender.<!--EZCODE BR START--><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE BR START--><!--EZCODE BR END-->If YuNa dominates her next JGP event the way she did her first one,then I\'m ready to start looking at her as our next World Junior champ.Liang has had 2,or was it 3 cracks at World Juniors? I think she skates better in senior events. I\'d like to see Kim win all her events this season.Korea could surely use the good news.
shellyfan
September 15th, 2005, 12:34 PM
If YuNa dominates her next JGP event the way she did her first one,then I\'m ready to start looking at her as our next World Junior champDon\'t forget Jr Worlds is also the only game in town for Mao Asada next year. Two of the top 6-8 skaters anywhere and at any level will likely be vying for Junior World\'s gold medal. . . neither Kim nor Asada eligible for Worlds or Olympics. This is an outrage both for the Olympics and frustrating for the rest of the truly Junior level skaters who must compete against skaters who really should be competing for Olympic and World medals. Eventually the IOC and ISU will have to let talent, parents and coaches determine the age each skater should be to get onto the elite stage.
If Yu-Na\'s improvement between now and next March matches her improvement since last March and Mao progresses and matures at a similar rate then skating TV fans are getting cheated big time. Kim gets zero TV coverage in the USA and we might see Asada in the GP if ESPN has time. I remember Susanne Poykio actually came in 1st in the free skate at the 2004 Skate America but her skate was not broadcast.
By the way, here is Kim\'s free skate at Bratislava two weeks ago::
YSI: Yu-Na Kim Free Skate JGP Bratislava (http://s32.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=01H2YD6VWV88X3US0QLBIXHFOK)
EigthAv
September 16th, 2005, 09:31 AM
Shelley,ita! I don\'t see where the arbitrary age restrictions have made the sport safer or elevated it\'s quality.To it\'s credit,the USFSA voted against the rule.Imagine Michelle Kwan at 1996 World Juniors or Tara Lipinski at 1997 World Juniors.Under todays rules both girls would have been ineligible for big Worlds in the respective years.<!--EZCODE BR START--><!--EZCODE BR END--><!--EZCODE BR START--><!--EZCODE BR END-->I also agree about ESPN. They say they are commited to growing the fanbase? Then why are we seeing the same events over and over and over with abbrevated coverage,rather than seeing a wider variety of events with broader event coverage? At some point I know Jenna McCorkell has done well enough at an otherwise American televised event to be shown.I also know that I\'m not the only American fan who is interested in British figure skating.They totally ignored 2005 World Juniors where Mao and YuNa rocked.<!--EZCODE BR START--><!--EZCODE BR END-->I don\'t think 60 minute broadcasts on Sundays of JGPs is too much to ask for considering how lame much of ESPN and ESPN 2\'s usual Sunday afternoon stuff is.Compared to live poker,endless boring NFL and NBA talk,JGPs would be like a breath of fresh air.
berthesghost
September 19th, 2005, 07:41 AM
Well, Tara always did look like the 97 Junior World champion to me.
What the rules have done really, is made Jr worlds much tougher. It used to be that a girl coudn\'t place at jr worlds without 2 different triples. Now it\'s all 3/3s, 3axels, and 4sals. Scarey. The technical content of Juniors is much higher than seniors right now for the ladies.
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